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Anyone else messing with DSE bypasses for Apex lately?
Been digging into the same rabbit hole. If you are just starting out with kernel-level stuff, you have to realize that EAC is pretty aggressive when it detects modified boot environments. Disabling DSE globally is basically asking for a flag because the anticheat monitors the system configuration state from the moment you hit the lobby.
Regarding EfiGuard:
EfiGuard is essentially a way to patch the kernel (specifically DSE and PatchGuard) at boot time by hijacking the boot process. It works, but if you do not have a solid grasp on how the EFI boot flow works, you will trigger an EAC heartbeat failure or just end up in a boot loop. If you want to go this route, you need to understand that EAC checks for the integrity of the kernel code section. If your driver isn't properly handled, you are toast.
On Kdmapper:
Using kdmapper is the standard way to map unsigned drivers, but it is not a bypass by itself. Even if you map your driver, you still need to worry about:
My advice? Stop looking at DSE modification for a second. If you really want to get into this without getting HWID banned on your main, look into how to hide your driver's presence from the system's loaded module list. A raw kdmapper load is detected in Apex the moment they perform a manual stack walk.
Has anyone here had success with manual mapping while avoiding the standard system thread detection? Or are we all just moving to DMA at this point to avoid the headache entirely?
Drop your experiences—trying to figure out if it's worth refining a software-based approach or if I should just bite the bullet on a PCIe board.
Been digging into the same rabbit hole. If you are just starting out with kernel-level stuff, you have to realize that EAC is pretty aggressive when it detects modified boot environments. Disabling DSE globally is basically asking for a flag because the anticheat monitors the system configuration state from the moment you hit the lobby.
Regarding EfiGuard:
EfiGuard is essentially a way to patch the kernel (specifically DSE and PatchGuard) at boot time by hijacking the boot process. It works, but if you do not have a solid grasp on how the EFI boot flow works, you will trigger an EAC heartbeat failure or just end up in a boot loop. If you want to go this route, you need to understand that EAC checks for the integrity of the kernel code section. If your driver isn't properly handled, you are toast.
On Kdmapper:
Using kdmapper is the standard way to map unsigned drivers, but it is not a bypass by itself. Even if you map your driver, you still need to worry about:
- Communication: How are you talking to your driver from your usermode app? If you use standard IOCTLs, EAC will see the handle or the communication patterns easily.
- System Threads: If your driver starts a thread that isn't spoofed or hidden, it is a dead giveaway.
- Memory Ranges: Drivers mapped via kdmapper are often located in non-paged pool memory that anticheats scan for specifically.
Code:
// Basic check for beginners: Are you handling your driver unload?
// If you don't clean up your system threads and device objects,
// you will get a manual ban almost immediately.
NTSTATUS DriverUnload(PDRIVER_OBJECT DriverObject) {
// Clean up resources here
return STATUS_SUCCESS;
}My advice? Stop looking at DSE modification for a second. If you really want to get into this without getting HWID banned on your main, look into how to hide your driver's presence from the system's loaded module list. A raw kdmapper load is detected in Apex the moment they perform a manual stack walk.
Has anyone here had success with manual mapping while avoiding the standard system thread detection? Or are we all just moving to DMA at this point to avoid the headache entirely?
Drop your experiences—trying to figure out if it's worth refining a software-based approach or if I should just bite the bullet on a PCIe board.
